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Bold Blind Beauty On A.I.R.
The Intersection of Blindness, Transportation, and Advocacy with Ron Brooks & Anthony Corona
Episode title and number: The Intersection of Blindness, Transportation, and Advocacy with Ron Brooks & Anthony Corona 5-#6
Summary of the show:
Hosts Nasreen Bhutta, Sylvia Stinson Perez, and Gabby Mendonca explore how disability, transportation, and advocacy connect, joined by guests Ron Brooks and Anthony Corona. The episode spotlights their advocacy work for inclusive transportation. They share challenges, wins, and the importance of combining stories with data, local involvement, and coalition-building. Listeners get practical travel tips and are encouraged to help drive systemic change.
Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:
00:00 Introduction and Hosts Introduction
01:57 Guest Introductions: Ron Brooks and Anthony Corona
02:12 Personal Journeys of Sight Loss
10:49 Challenges in Advocating for Accessible Transportation
13:33 Bold Blind Beauty Byte: Travel Essentials
17:15 Successful Collaborations in Advocacy
26:30 Future Innovations in Transportation
31:00 How to Advocate for Better Transportation
33:27 Connecting with Our Guests
35:07 Conclusion and Call to Action
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Bios for Ron & Anthony:
Ron Brooks is the founder of Accessible Avenue and Senior Director for Policy and Stakeholder Engagement at UZURV, a leader in accessible rideshare. With 32 years of experience in public transit, Ron is dedicated to making transportation accessible to everyone, especially people with disabilities. He’s a frequent presenter, co-authored “All Aboard,” and actively serves on several disability advocacy boards.
Anthony Corona is the founder and executive producer of the Sunday edition, a family of podcasts and digital media content services. For almost 6 years, a Sunday edition family has been producing quality, entertaining, educational, and fun podcasts, special events, and discussions. Anthony lives in Miami with his partner and four dogs who believe they run the world! Look for Anthony on your social media, Substack, and search for 'Sunday Edition with Anthony Corona,' where you can find your favorite podcasts.
Connecting with Ron & Anthony:
Ron Brooks: accessibleavenue.net, www.uzurv.com, LinkedIn @Ron Brooks Anthony Corona: opendoorsnfp.org, email - sundayeditionac@gmail.com
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Speaker: Welcome back to another edition of Bold Blind Beauty On A.I.R., the show that's clearing the air for more A.I.R. (Access, Inclusion, and Representation). My name is Stephanae McCoy, and with me are my co-hosts:
Dana: I'm Dana Hinnant,
Nasreen: I'm Nasreen Bhutta,
Sylvia: And this is Sylvia Stinson Perez.
Steph: "When you put a curb cut in, not only can you get around, but soak strollers and all kinds of other things on wheels get around. So when we make changes, it's often for a large group." ~Ed Roberts. This powerful quote from Ed Roberts, a pioneer in the disability rights movement, reminds us that accessible design isn't just about accommodating one group. It's about building a world where everyone can move freely.
A single curb cut designed for those with mobility challenges ends up helping parents with strollers, travelers with rolling suitcases, delivery drivers, and countless others. In transportation and public spaces, the push for accessibility isn't just advocacy for the blind or disabled. It's a call to create environments that promote independence, inclusion, and opportunity for all.
Today, we're exploring the intersection of blindness, transportation, and advocacy. Our guests, Ron Brooks and Anthony Corona, are not only advocates but innovators working tirelessly to remove barriers and open pathways that benefit entire communities. Because when we make things accessible, we don't just change routes, we change lives.
Gentlemen, welcome to Bold Blind Beauty on A.I.R. It is so wonderful to have you join us today.
Anthony: Thank you so much.
Steph: Yes, we are so looking forward to this conversation with you. And so for our first question, we always ask this for our guests who are on the blindness spectrum. We ask them to share their blindness or sight loss journeys.
Ron, would you like to go first?
Ron: Sure, I'd be happy to. So I was born in Central Indiana all the way back in 1967, and I was a kid who was born with low vision. So. I read large print. I was able to attend a regular school, at least at first, although that changed, as I was getting older, my vision was getting a little worse.
When I was 14, I was doing something I wasn't supposed to do, playing basketball, and I went up for a rebound and got a ball to the face. And I basically caused the rest of my vision to go overnight. So I went through high school as a blind kid, learned braille, learned how to get around in my high school, got cane skills, and went off to college.
I eventually became a guide dog user and went to San Francisco for graduate school. Really, throughout that entire time. I just loved getting around and being in the community and doing fun things. And transportation was a daily blessing and a daily curse. That was then; since that time, I've gotten married. I've been married now for almost 30 years. We have three adult kids, my wife Lisa and I, and we live in the Phoenix area. Yeah, transportation has become my life. We'll talk more about that in a bit.
Steph: Thank you so much for that. Ron Anthony.
Anthony: Well, I came along a few years after Ron. I literally just turned 50, and I am frantically fabulous.
I was born in New York, lived the first bunch of my lives between new, the first year, bunch of years of my life between New York and Virginia. My father was in the Navy at the time, and I was sighted. I was sighted until I turned 40, and it was due to a case of the shingles, which is very rare in the way it presented for me. It didn't present on my body itself. It was in the tissues in my brain, my eyes, my ears. I almost ended up with permanent vertigo, had surgery to drill a hole in my skull to relieve the pressure of my brain. And subsequently, my optical nerve and retinas were all but destroyed, and I floundered for a while.
I had to find my footing, to lose, you know, lose your sight at that age. In that short amount of time, it really leaves you scrambling. But I have found my way and am loving life, and I'm glad to be here. Thank you.
Steph: Thank you both for sharing your stories. I think that these are very important because they help, especially for those who are new to sight loss. I think it helps to empower them to find a way to continue moving through it. It's not that we overcome it, but we learn to adapt to it. So thank you so much for sharing. Now I'm gonna turn it over to Sylvia for our first question, Sylvia? Yeah,
Sylvia: Thank you, Steph. And I, you know what I'll say is that. I think you'll hear throughout this that no matter what your sight loss journey is, we all become advocates, especially around transportation.
Anthony: Yeah.
Sylvia: So what inspired you to focus your careers around advocacy and making transportation and mobility more accessible and equitable for people with disabilities? Was there a specific event or inspiration that really sparked that commitment for any of you? Let's start with Anthony.
Anthony: Yeah, I'm glad you, you, allowed me to go first 'cause I, I, I have to credit a lot of that with the, with the man who's sharing the panel with me today, Ron.
After losing my sight, I got some contract positions and started volunteering and working for various organizations on a volunteer started Sunday edition, which you can find in your podcast feed if you look for it. But then some stuff was happening here where I live now, which is Miami in our para transit system.
And I, I worked really closely with Ron on, on how to strategize, what, what were our best tactics, et cetera, et cetera, and how do I, how do I inspire my group to get out there with me and do what needed to be done? That led to my, you know, sharing that information and what I learned from Ron with other groups around the country, and I was noticed by the Open Doors organization, which asked me to come on board first as an ADA trainer, as well as a compliance officer. And then last year they asked me if I wanted to step into the Director of Communications role, and I was very happy to marry my pre blindness skills with what I was doing in the blind and low vision community.
Of course, I am now working across the disability spectrum. But I'm, I'm loving what I learned, and I'm putting what I have learned from Ron to use on an almost daily basis. So thank you, Ron, and I'm sure you've got a much better story than I do.
Sylvia: I can't wait to hear Ron's story. And by the way, I'm partial to hearing more about Miami because I was a Miami paratransit and public transit user for many, many, many years,
Anthony: And you must know how challenging it is.
Sylvia: Ron, tell us, tell us about, you know, your, your what, what sparked your interest in this transportation field?
Ron: From the time that I was in kindergarten, I would sit on my bed, and the first book I learned to read back in 1972 was a little book called You Will Go To the Moon. And it was this great story appropriate for a kindergartner of the Apollo program, and it had great pictures and showed the rocket taking off and the astronauts. And from then until now, I have loved transportation. Anything that moves, flies, floats, or drives, I'm all about it. And obviously, I couldn't fly a plane or be an astronaut, at least not back then.
But when I was in college, I used transportation a lot, and I had strong opinions about what was wrong with it and what could be made better, and what that should look like. I had a chance to be a volunteer on an advisory committee for a transit agency in the Bay Area. I mostly went so that I could complain and they would have to listen, and I got involved.
And what I found was that the people working there really wanted, for the most part, to do the right thing, but they didn't have any experience with how their service actually played out for those of us who used it. And so there was a real lack of awareness, and so I felt like I could bridge that gap with my life experience.
Now, I wasn't like this sophisticated; I didn't have all these thoughts. I just knew that I knew better, and it was really obvious to me what needed to be fixed. So I got involved. That was back in 1993 for the Bay Area Rapid Transit District in San Francisco, and I've been involved in the industry ever since.
I went to Florida, went to New Mexico for a few years, spent some time back in the Bay Area, and went to Illinois. Came out here to Phoenix, and I've been doing different things in the industry all that time. But all of it has been focused on accessible transit and paratransit, and specifically on working with the disability community, to make sure that we are designing services that hopefully work better and better for people with disabilities who need them.
Sylvia: I, I really love that, Ron, because you're right, I always had a list of things they could do better and complaints, but taking it to that next level, and I think that's what we talk about a lot on Bold Blind Beauty On A.I.R. Is how do you take what you know, your, your challenges, whatever it is and this particular one is around transportation and turn that into true advocacy.
And the two of you have figured out that, and you're gonna share with the rest of us. So Gabby, ask the next question.
Gabby: All right. I love hearing about your story and path and how this came to be. What I would love to know is sort of, you know, tell us about some of the challenges you've encountered in advocating for accessible transportation, both on a systemic level, such as policy funding or public perception, as well as your day-to-day work.
Ron: Well, well, I will start with this question, and I'm gonna start kind of big picture. I think one of the biggest challenges from the big picture perspective is it, it, and, and I would say by the way, that it is not money, which is what most people think it is. It's not money. Right. I think it's really understand the fact that it takes more than a law to make transportation work right.
And we've had the ADA since 1990, and it was enforceable since 1992, meaning that agencies could be sued when they didn't do it right. And, largely, public transportation industries meet the requirements of the ADA. The problem is, is that the people who make decisions about the service don't understand the implications of those decisions or how they affect us in daily life.
And for me, I think the biggest challenge has been helping the industry recognize that just doing what the law requires isn't enough, and it doesn't always work right. So it's really kind of helping the industry have the awareness of what makes transportation better and what people actually need to make transportation work the way it should.
The other big challenge is that public transit operate it kind of operates in a vacuum. That vacuum is cities and towns, and even if the public transit is good, oftentimes the cities and towns where transit operates aren't very accessible. So even if you have a great bus or a great train, people can't get to it, and they can't use it. And so they end up stuck on paratransit.
As far as day-to-day stuff goes, it's the same stuff I think blind people face everywhere. It's the technology. Is it accessible? Are we with colleagues and coworkers who respect our opinions and who believe that we have something to contribute?
And those challenges are true for all of us. And even for me, a long time into my career, I face those challenges sometimes, and I think those are always issues that are gonna be with us. And it's why shows like this are important, 'cause it shows that we're all in the same boat and we can all help each other, kind of along that journey.
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Gabby: Thank you so much, Ron. And, Anthony what are, what are your challenges or, you know, some of the things that you kind of notice, especially in your day-to-day work as well?
Anthony: I mean, I could echo [00:15:00] everything Ron said, and he said it so eloquently. I'm gonna take the other side approach to this question and say that, from both ends of the spectrum, for people that I am advocating with and are sighted or non-disabled, getting them to understand the story rather than the policy. And you get a lot of, it's not that bad, or it only happens once in a while. The system works well. As Ron had said, you know, looking at it as, what are you required? If you're meeting the basic requirements, you're doing a good job, but if you wanna do a better job, a great job, you'll go above and beyond.
But the other side of that spectrum is inspiring, our community to do more than complain. You know, to go to the meetings, you, to make the relationships with the people that are running your paratransits with your county commissioners and such. And, putting action to, to word the word is important, and you absolutely have to file complaints, but it doesn't end there.
The advocacy that is needed to get the kind of change that we're looking for requires more involvement. So, you know, from both ends of the spectrum, it's often frustrating to try to tell the stories and make them connect in a way that will give that light bulb moment.
Sylvia: I love that you're saying the story on top of the policy, and I'm right. Absolutely. That's how all advocacy is made to work, is that Yes. Telling the story.
Gabby: Yeah. And I, and I really love that you both described what's so important, right? Because. The fact that you're doing this where you are, and I'm sure the people who are benefiting from this really feel such an impact from it as well. But also noticing like, I think about the paratransit system here in New York, and I just think about what you guys are doing would be so amazing in other parts of the world as well. So, thank you for sharing that.
And, the next person I believe is Nasreen.
Nasreen: Hi, Anthony. Hi Ron. Advocacy often requires building coalitions and working with diverse stakeholders. Can you describe a successful collaboration that you've been part of that advanced accessible transportation solution, and what made it effective for you both?
Ron: So I'm gonna kick this off because I wanna actually pitch it straight to Anthony. Anthony contacted me because there were some issues in Miami. He alluded to this earlier, and they were complicated paratransit policy and governance issues, and really accountability issues. And he reached out to me, and I got to go to Miami and provide some help to him and a group of folks, and I'm gonna let him tell that story because they did some amazing, difficult work.
Anthony: It's for me. I had been complaining for a while. My partner, our friends' group, had been complaining, had built relationships with the paratransit system, with county people, and we're not seeing any kind of results. And the straw that broke the camel's back for me was a, a good friend of ours, a younger person who's in college who is paraplegic sight loss, multiple disabilities, and was dropped off in the middle of one of the parking lots with no direction, no nothing. And at that point, enough is enough. You know, there's safety and then there's complaining about on time or bad routes that kicked it into high gear. And so the challenge was that people who have been here for a long time, nothing ever changes. So half the battle, which I was looking for help with Ron, was, how do I inspire people to understand that? Unless we coate together, it's not gonna change. We're not gonna make any forward movement.
And so, Ron came with a lot of resources, a lot of experience, and stories that he could tell that inspired. And what we did was we logged all of the complaints for six months. Everything from, you know, wrong drop-offs to, after the 30-minute window. And we were able to show data points, not only to the county, but to the mayor, to the Miami Herald, to the Florida Office of Government Accountability. And honestly, once we hit the heralds, and when you have somebody, his name is Justin. When you have somebody like Justin and a loudmouth like me in an article and then being interviewed on camera, people take notice.
Is everything great and wonderful now? No. But we are still in conversation with them, and it is getting better. One of the best things that we accomplished was adding overflow dispatch and overflow cars to help out when things get mixed up, and that was a significant change that helped. And now we're fine-tuning it. Things like will call and stuff.
So, I cannot stress enough that the question was about coalition at its core. I cannot stress enough that building those relationships, going to those county commissioner meetings, or however your local government is structured, and showing up and being seen, and then having something to say. Because when they already know you and you're coming to talk to 'em about a problem, it's a lot better than when they don't know you and they don't want to hear it.
Sylvia: I'm having a flashback to bad Miami paratransit memories.
Gabby: I'm thinking about my bad paratransit experiences too. And, you talked about your friend who got dropped off in the middle of a parking lot and with no direction.
Anthony: No direction. In a wheelchair. It's Florida, the sun is so bright off. It was, yeah. It was horrible.
Nasreen: That is, that is pretty sad. But sometimes it just takes someone to make a little noise to get out there and make it and be seen and heard to make some of these decision makers, you know, really take notice and kind of work with you. So that's really great that you guys were able to take the stakeholders and make them work with you rather than against you and break those barriers. So kudos to you guys for that, and hopefully other states or other people in other states will also see how you guys did it and kind of learn from that, and maybe also take that approach and get out there.
Anthony: Thank you.
Sylvia: Well, our next question really is kind of similar, but can you think of a specific example of a person or, maybe just a group, who were so dramatically impacted by the advocacy work that you've done?
Ron: Yep. I've got a powerful story, and it matters because the improvement that was made was a recommendation, not from me, the transit professional, but from a customer who had no background in transportation. But who had a powerful story that caused us to rethink an entire program and design it in a way that actually worked and solved her challenge. I am in the Phoenix area. I currently live in a city called Mesa. And a few years ago, I was working for the public transit agency at the time. We had to cut the paratransit service area because they were serving areas of the community that weren't required to have service, and they didn't have the money to do it or the political will.
We had a program that was an on-demand program that riders could call and use, just simply by calling and booking a trip that actually provided better service and cost less money. And so what we decided to do was to drop the ADA paratransit and replace it with this other program. The challenge was that for this particular customer, her trips began and ended outside of what would ultimately be the paratransit service area, and they were long trips. And our service design encouraged people who were gonna use it to take shorter trips. So it wasn't gonna work for her, and she was literally gonna lose her business. So we were having a public hearing, and she came up during a meeting. So a lady who was blind, who owns a business here in Mesa. And said, I'm gonna lose my business because of this and I have an idea.
And her idea was simple, and I won't go into it 'cause it's, it's kind of technical. But she had a policy idea that none of us had thought of that instead of giving her a certain number of short trips per month, we could give her a mileage bank. Let her decide how to take the trips that she needed, which meant taking longer trips, but taking fewer of them. She wouldn't use any more services. It wouldn't cost us anymore, but it worked better for her. No one had thought of it. No one in the country is doing that kind of service except here in Mesa, and that came from her. Here's the ironic twist. I just moved to Mesa, and I now use that service and it now benefits me directly. And that to me is a powerful story of the power of advocacy from an individual with a story. You don't have to know stuff. You just have to know your own situation and be willing to share.
Sylvia: That's awesome, and I love that now you are getting to benefit.
Ron: Yes.
Anthony: So I'll throw an Open Doors Organization story here, very quickly. I did a presentation, actually for the group in New York, for the ACB group in New York. And a couple of weeks later, I got a frantic call, a personal call from somebody who had been in that presentation and who was being denied because of their guide dog, and this was for an air flight.
She uses the Open Doors Organization service animal portal. So it was not one of our partner air carriers, but because of the relationships, I was able to weed through and get a person on the phone pretty quickly and get her on her flight, and she was able to say goodbye to her sister. The next flight probably would not have facilitated that for her. I'm not gonna say it went viral, but it definitely went through the blind and low vision community. You know her, her relief after all was said and done that she made it to be there with her sister for those final moments.
And, you can't replace something like that. Yeah. It's not my job specifically to get somebody on an airplane, but it's all part of the advocacy. And then I turned that story. I can't really speak too much about what goes on behind closed doors, but we did an airline summit with all of the major carriers across the globe. And I told that story, in the understanding of why the systems that we have are so broken and behind the scenes. I can tell you the airlines are just as frustrated as we are. Yeah.
Sylvia: Both of those are powerful stories. I mean, one was able to keep her job and one was able to have an incredible personal experience; those are powerful, and yeah. Advocacy. It works. It works.
Gabby: Absolutely. So looking ahead, what changes or innovations are you most hoping to see in the transportation sector to better serve people with disabilities? And, how can listeners, whether individuals or organizations, help to push progress forward?
And, Ron, you can start.
Ron: Sure. So, a couple of things that I look forward to seeing, and I have the opportunity to write a chapter in a book called The New Future of Public Transportation. And I wrote a chapter on paratransit. One of the trends that I predicted, actually, and that we're beginning to see is a move toward on-demand paratransit, but also a better integration of paratransit with other types of transportation, such as rail service.
So, for example, you could take an on-demand paratransit trip to a rail station and take a rail trip that's much more accessible, faster, and cheaper to get to a downtown job. We're starting to see those models being innovated in the industry, and I hope and look forward to seeing more of that in the future.
I also believe that we do have an opportunity, even with this administration, one of the bright spots is the public transit leadership within the Federal Transit Administration. There aren't many bright spots, folks, but this is a bright spot. I do believe that we have an opportunity to make some pretty big improvements in transportation accessibility over the next several years.
Just as far as resources, there are too many to name. I will throw you some links and show notes. I would encourage people to check out a course that I had the opportunity to take at Mississippi State. In fact, it was Sylvia who got me this opportunity. The class is called Gearing Up for Transit. Give you a show link. It's all free, and it goes through a lot of details about how you can be a smart transit advocate.
Gabby: Excellent. Thank you so much, Ron and Anthony.
Anthony: So, like Ron, I am really excited about on-demand service and the crossing of different types of services and maximizing. I think that major metropolitan systems could innovate this much quicker than more rural, rural areas, but the combining of using the infrastructure that's already there and shortening the trips and making more trips available for people because of that, I think, is really gonna revolutionize paratransit.
I wanna go back to what I said before because they, I think, it's really important. We just saw in, in the last week that the Department of Justice is, in fact, going forward we have a lawsuit for ride shares. And that's because the organizations have been telling you, Open Doors and other areas that Ron is involved in, we've all been telling you, keep the complaints going, even though it doesn't seem like it's doing anything.
Eventually, when there's enough of them, they're gonna do something. So if you expand that to all the way down from your very local area to worldwide travel, if you are sharing the experiences, both complaints and stories, it is gonna help the advocacy move forward. And quite honestly. I do believe that we need to build a coalition across the disability spectrum and then try to build a coalition with the companies that are providing the on-demand services and convince our local areas to invest in pilot programs. Like, figuring out these routes that would be multi-transportation, usage.
If we can show success, I always say you can't really advocate without the data, but you also can't advocate without the story. So, marrying the two of those is what's really gonna help us move advocacy in this space forward.
Gabby: Absolutely. I just wanna applaud both of you for all of the work you've been doing. I think that, sharing these points and discussing all of these things, this is how we begin to come together and figure out what's gonna work across the board. So thank you so much. I wanna pass it on to Nasreen.
Nasreen: Thanks, Gabby. Yeah, I feel like Ron and Anthony, you guys have definitely been making some impactful inroads with transportation. And you're doing your part to advocate and break down the barriers. But what can each of us do as individuals to help advocate for better transportation options? What would you advise?
Anthony: I kind of gave this in, in two of the previous answers. I really cannot stress enough being visible about your experience. Write a blog, share on someone else's blog, share on social media, but at the same time, you have to do the paperwork, and that is the only way the data points. You can have a hundred really compelling stories, but if the data doesn't match what you're trying to, they ain't buying. So that is, that's first and foremost. And, honestly, if you have the means to do so, get out there and travel, get out there and experience it.
The more that they see us in real life experiencing the services, the trains, our transit, the more they see us, the more we count. And I'll I'll pass it to the master.
Ron: So I'm going to give you just a couple of things. Transportation is local. Public transportation is local. So it's really important for local people to learn about their system. Every one of 'em works differently. So learn about your system. It's not hard to do. Tell your story, tell the good, tell the bad, and when you tell the bad, talk in terms of what would be better. So that people understand what your need is as opposed to what's broken. It's easier to fix something when people know what the solution looks like.
Document your experience, and as Anthony said, keep track of those things because data matters. So it's the story and it's the numbers, and it's being focused on the solution.
The other thing is to get with other people. If you're in an organization, whether it's the NFB or the ACB or some other organization in your community, pool your resources. Pool your stories, pool your data, and tell one story with many chapters as opposed to many individual stories. Hope that helps.
Nasreen: Those are some really great points and areas where people can definitely get involved in their local communities. Ron and Anthony, thanks for sharing that. I'm sure that'll be very useful to many people out there.
So if our listeners want to know more about the impactful work you guys are doing and they want to connect with you online, how can they reach you, Anthony?
Anthony: So you can go to opendoors.org, and you can find me there, and you can find a service animal portal. And we touch just about every area of transit and retail and hotel, and hospitality. If you wanna reach me directly, I do Sunday Edition and the whole family of podcasts and digital media content services, and it's very easy sundayeditionac@gmail.com, that's all, one word with no punctuation.
Ron: And for me, a couple of ways. First off, I have my company website, which is accessibleavenue.net. So that's A-C-C-E-S-S-I-B-L-E-A-V-E-N-U-E.net. And you can find links to my book on accessible community involvement. You can find information about how to connect with me. You can find me on LinkedIn. I'm pretty active there as well. I have both a personal page and an accessible avenue page. And if you're interested in on-Demand Paratransit, I work for a company called UZURV, and their address is www.uz (like zebra) urv.com.
Nasreen: Thank you so much for joining us here and being our guest today on Bold Blind Beauty On A.I.R. It's been a great discussion, guys. Thank you.
Anthony: Thank you so much for having us. Appreciate it.
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